Courtney Love Asked About Robert Pattinson Playing Kurt Cobain

Who Makes those Rules?

Just curious... for those fansites going "no-pap" are you still going to write about the smut news that is the written version of pap-pix?

What about Press Conferences and Red Carpets when "Paps" take photos?

Who makes those rules?

Just curious?

If you hadn't heard my take on the whole thing Grab a coffee and read here. Feel free to comment I crave your opinions.

Superstar Cycle of Photos - Paparazzi Cursade

There is an ongoing crusade of fans trying to change the Paparazzi laws to protect & respect Robert Pattinson.

I understand these efforts, I support those who lead these efforts, but having experienced "Vancouver Robert Pattinson" and "Paparazzi Vancouver" firsthand, I have a slightly different perspective. I would be a hypocrit if I tried to go pap-free... which is why I am not going to... but I have no ill-wil towards those doing it, in fact, I think it is fabulous... but I just couldn't do it... Here are my thoughts and reasoning... I hope you understand....

This is a tad repeatitive over things I have said here & there over the past 6+ months but it is on my mind and I wanted to get it all out in one spot.

During New Moon filming, and you can go back and read my posts from March to May of this year, I was new to this whole scene and amazed at how easy it was to get to a set.

We literally drove or walked right by and saw stars. With a bit of time and talk with the security (who would assess your crazy-level) you could wait and (provided you weren't crazy) cast would come out, or stop when they drove by. It was an amazing experience that I will never forget!

There were daily photos on LaineyGossip.com of the cast going about their daily routines. Often Waving, Smiling, Walking down the street otherwise unbothered.

It worked well.

The Superstar Cycle of photos worked....

Stars got a nice photo taken and published

Paparazzi got paid

Fans got to see what they fave cast memeber was up to

..... to me this is a triple crown win. But it is rare.....

Back then, when things seemed to work, Taylor Lautner had so many photos taken. During New Moon the photos really helped skyrocket and promote him as there were next to no photos of him before that besides the few from Twilight and Shark Boy - ha!

This promotion and photo-overload (along with his Selena Gomez "thing") was what he needed to help push him into the spotlight and boost his fame up a notch in preparation for New Moon and Jacob Black's bigger role.

New Moon went well as far as the Superstar Cycle of Photos

The couple months between New Moon and Eclipse filming in Vancouver I began to fully realize the fame these actors had achieved.

While I knew they were "famous" when they were here, it somehow felt different since I had met them and been a part of it all. I was not the online fangirl craving more, I was the online blogger posting more.

Italy filming showed me just how huge these guys were and I became the online fan girl, craving blogs, photos, videos and news of what was happening with my fave actors and the creation of "my" movie.

As fans we all connect and it becomes a piece of who we are, when it was filming here I didn't crave those photos or videos because I would just drive down to set and wait and hope.

So New Moon was done and Rob went to NYC to do Remember Me and Kristen went to L.A. to do The Runaways and it was clear what people's "issues" with paparazzi were.

I kept saying to myself "thank god it wasn't like that here"

During New Moon there was essentially one or two guys snapping their photos and then leaving the cast alone. In L.A. and NYC there were chases and mobs and craziness....dozens of papz flashing and fighting for their own exclusive money-maker shot. I was proud to live in a city that didn't behave that way.

Of course, once Eclipse started, that changed.

Now 20+ paparazzi came from L.A. and the competition to get photos became intense. The primary cast was forced into lockdown and no one was getting photos.

L.A. paparazzi slowly faded back to L.A as there was no money to be made off superstars who never left their hotel room.

The Superstar Cycle of Photos was broken.

I did feel bad for the cast being cooped up, I did feel sad for the fans getting no photos or sightings, but I understood the reason and I dealt with it.

As the number of paparazzi decreased and the irritation of the cast increased, more outings were had. Rob and Kristen, along with other cast, were spotted out and about on occasion and the paparazzi who were still here were always the first to know then when and where of the cast (usually by following them from a hotel, but sometimes from their "inside sources" which I believe included people in the hotel, resturants, set crew and even the stars own "team" - how else could they find out so much detail about the nights plans?)

The change between New Moon & Eclipse was astonishing.

The number of paparazzi, the number of fans from around the world, the amount of security, the stress on everyone... not fun!

The bottom line is that these guys are superstars now and sadly part of that is a massive fandom that wants photos and paparazzi who will make a lot of money on getting those photos. The Superstar Cycle of Photos is in action and there is nothing we can do stop it - but we can alter it.

At the Bobby Long Concert in Vancouver, Rob, Kristen, Nikki, Liz and more spent the entire evening enjoying a show from a private area by themselves. It was near the bathrooms, entrance and bank machine... they had some longing looks from fans who walked by (repeatedly) but they were not disturbed, they were not mobbed, fans respected them, paparazzi waited outside.

When it was time to go the security came outside the back door several times, even through the front door where paparazzi was and WALKING to the spot they planned to bring the cast out of... leading paparazzi right to where they needed to be... then they pulled taxi's in and then they backed them up and then they waited.... it was such an obvious lengthy procedure it seems impossible it wasn't planned in order to ensure every pap was ready ....

Then when Rob & Kristen came out they were led into the 2nd taxi, which meant they had to WAIT for the rest of the cast to come out and get into the 1st taxi before they could pull away.... um - SERIOUSLY? What is wrong with that planning?

I truly believe it is done in such a way that they optimize photos in the least amount of time... it was 40 seconds of photos after an entire evening out.... I dunno just me?

In regards to Rob the other night at Marcus' Show: (you can See video here)

I still think if Rob had let them get a few photos, then said "that's enough guys, goodnight" it would be better.... sure there will be papz who keep going - THEN I would hate them and be pissed off - THEN I would fight to change laws against them and join the crusade.....

but, right now I just feel like it's a vicious cycle of fans wants, paparazzi's jobs, stars publicity.....

There are ways to avoid the paparazzi - there are ways trust me - I have seen it happen... granted sometimes there is no choice, but there are people who plan the casts lives for them.... choosing locations with multiple exits or vehicles in place would be a good idea when possible ..... avoiding going out into a crowd of paparazzi ... having the doors UNLOCKED TO AVOID STANDING IN A CIRCLE OF PAPARAZZI!!!!!!!

Seriously!!!!!!!!!

It's common sense and planning and when stuff like that happens it makes me call b.s. on the publicists and the "people" who are supposed to take care of the stars such as Rob.... Why was the passenger side window OPEN? and why did it stay open so long? Why were the boys laughing if they were in such alleged distress?

There is no way when leaving a hotel that a superstar being "mobbed" by papz should have to leave the front door, walk down a long hallway to a locked door, wait while someone goes around to unlock that damn door and also enter into a car with open windows that is crowded by papz...

Furthermore, paparazzi who stand in front of a moving vehicle - well - that's there stupidity - I would deffo pass a law stating it was ok to run them over! LMAO!

**end Rant**

Sorry - I just become so frustrated with this Superstar Cycle of Photos.... There has to be a way to make it work best for all - it will never be perfect, this is an imperfect world and we are greedy fans provided photos by greedy paparazzi and the superstars either have to have a miserable locked up life or face the craziness from time to time - this will not last forever, we may always love Twilight but the next big thing will come around.... Brangelina have found a way - so will the Twilight Cast....

I am sorry if this pisses people off, it's just how I feel... I would NOT want to live their lives, but I don't have to.... I am not saying they signed on for this but it happened and they just have to ride with it and as fans you have to make decisions that you can live with.

I do not buy any magazines... I do look at scans online.

I post whatever I feel like with my opinion of if I agree, disagree, support or not. I feel like with trash, it's better to post it myself then feed hits to trashy websites. I prefer posting the pic or video myself then saying why I think it's wrong... that's ok with me.

I state my opinions over all the rumours, gossip, b.s. That is why I blog, to rant, vent, report on what is goingon and how I feel about it... otherwise you could go to any site to read the same stuff.

The Superstar Cycle of Photos is my theory on this whole situation - if you have a solution to stop it - feel free to comment, but in my eyes it is unstoppable there are too many fans and the supply & demand is too high right now... make your own decisions and choices to try to alter or improve this cycle, or don't bitch about it.

It's easy to say "Poor Rob" but if you go and buy the magazines or look at the photos or whatever while saying "stop the maddness Rob deserves a life of his own" then you are simply a hypocrit non?

From Twilight to now everything has changed.

Almost unknown actors have skyrocketed into an unfathomable position of fame. We love them, we want to see them, but we need to be smart about it - we need to somehow make this Superstar Cycle of Photos work like it did during New Moon filming in Vancouver.

Thanks for Reading.
Mandy

Video of Rob, Bobby and Marcus leaving HOtel Cafe

There were Photos of Rob, Bobby and Marcus leaving Hotel Cafe and now thereis video...

People will hate me but I don't hate this video - he is laughing in the car, If I was Stephenie Ritz I'd have just driven and if a pap wants to flash in FRONT of a moving vehicle - that's his own stupidity and deathwish AND why the HELL was the door LOCKED? I mean are the "people" who take care of these things that incompetent or was it part of the plan?

Why didn't he look up for one photo or 5 seconds or something? I mean fans are glad to see SOMETHING - he hadn't been out in a while or if he had he hadn't been photographed... it really makes it worse when he is in hiding... but that's just my opinion....

Robert Pattinson at Hotel Cafe in West Hollywood last night

I know a lot of people are hating these photos and/or not posting them, but it is my blog and I almost always post whatever.... It's the cycle of fame that I have talked about before when The Robsten elevator incident occured or after Bobby Long Taxi fiasco.

For those of you new to my blog or forgetful of my opinions here is a recap-

Basically, Fans want photos, Stars photos promote them, paprazzi's job is to take photos so the cycle continues....

Few fans will 100% ban photos, we are greedy we always want more.... while Twilight Stars deffo don't NEED the promo currently, it always helps raise their fame and paycheque and whatnot, without all the photos of them, they wouldn't have become so big, and paparzzi will keep taking photos and trying to get a more exclusive shot because agencies keep paying them and are very competitive, because fans keep buying the magazines and going to the websites and want new original photos... it's a vicious cycle and it won't end soon.

With all THAT being said - here are some photos from last night, No Rob doesn't look like he wants to stop and smile for the cameras, but with that many flashes, [and likely beers in my system] I wouldn't either.. it'd be nice if he did - everyone get their shots and go home, but it doesn't work that way - it's the greed, more, more, more.

I hoped this was a wave, I think it's more of a "WTF DOOD"

Just liked I thought this was a "tip of that hat hello" but again I am pretty sure it's a "hide my face with my hat more"

Side Note - Bobby is a hottie

And the only (barely) look at hsi eyes

That's right Robbie, protect those eyes, that's the money maker ;)

Poory Guy wanted to have a night out and was chased by papz - tough life, but if I had his looks,talent and pay cheque I'd say it's part and parcel... Ideally we all have an agreement, stars pose off 10 seconds, papz snap off 10 seconds, fans um... enjoy eternally ;) But who decides how long, how often, how many?

If you do not agree with me, that is ok - I still love you.

Rob lands in L.A. - - - I question the relationship of fans/papz/star

I have such mixed feelings about this all. I mean, fans want photos, though we are greedy (hello Vanity Fair and Harper Bazaar and we still want more!) and the Paparazzi's job is to take photos, and somewhere in that mix the movie stars job has become hiding from photos.... which sucks for fans... can't we all come to a happy medium - like fans be less greddy, paparazzi be less agressive and movie stars be more relaxed... it'd be a triple win in my books. I mean what would the harm have been really if paps got a few more shots of him inside the vehicle rather than a jacket?

Am I wrong here?

Thoughts?

Robsten Runs Wild in Vancouver

Runs Wild or Runs from OK! Magazine Paparazzi? ;)

There is a reason this crap is only 50 cents.... it's all b.s.

Engaged, Pregnant, Marries, blah blah blah - if Kstew or Rpattz don't say it - I don't believe it... nor do I care...

David Slade Tweets about Paparazzi

Summaraized on Twilight Lexicon:

It sounds like Kristen and Taylor had to concentrate knowing they were being filmed by the paparazzi:

According to David Slade’s tweets:

“Yes we were shooting Bella and Jacob’s kiss on the mountain, its really a grueling emotional thing to have to shoot over and over.”

“We had paparazzi on the ridge about 1/2mile away, their pictures will look bizarre they would have had to use 1000mm+ lenses.”

“Really really long paparazzi lenses make everything look terrible, one snuck close to set and was kicked off, another was arrested last week.”

“I don’t mind these pap pics, its just annoying when it stops us from shooting, or the images are completely unrepresentative of our shots.”

“Bah.”

“Today preparation, and the day off, tomorrow editing.”


I guess what he is saying is that when paprazzi are so far away zooming in so close to a shoot they may not get the angle, the story or the image that represents what is being filmed... I am guuilty of wanting to see pics of the cast in constume etc. but I def. don't want anything that interupts the shooting - which is why as a fan I obey the rules and regulations set up by the production assistants when I go to sets.

Here is a photo David Slade tweeted:

Twilight Lexicon posted: Poor David is having a bit of a rough time. Recent filming at Jacob’s house caused him to have an allergy attack because the place is a working goat farm. Now is bringing us the mountain scenes David tweeted, “6am mountain. A black bear strayed close to us. We shoot solid through, sunburnt and tired we return at sunset.”

Lil Bits of Twi News and Lainey...

Love her or hate her she always has the goods...

Lainey reports that there are *MORE* LA Papz in town *gasp* that brings the total to over 27 !!!! for essentially TWO people (ok yes, all the Twi Cast but really they are all hungry simply for Robsten.... that's what the world wants to see....)

I have a solution - Robsten Exposed... Making Out... Papz get pics and then go home... please... geez!

So yesterday Kristen's Salon visit was apparently not for Bella wig (which I figured, didn't they work that out in L.A. last week?) Lainey reports that it was for a vamp look?



Here is what she said and some more lil bits Lainey revealed today in her post....

As for what Kristen was doing at the salon – am told exclusively that they were testing out a look, something to do with a transformation, not just her hair, but makeup and costuming too. As a vampire.

And there’s more exclusive information for you Twilight fans who’ve written such lovely messages lately in an attempt to balance out the hate – thank you! This is also a charitable gift for Old Lady Tour, even though you use information without crediting, which amounts to plagiarism, and even though you are often so embarrassingly wrong on your details, so much so that we have to keep doing your job for you, we’ll help you out because we can. We know you won’t thank us though. We are used to this.

I think it's funny she is calling out Christine/Newsflic/VCNews360/TwifanTours - PunkD_Images calls her out all the time - finally Lainey does...

I had no prob with this lady - I have never met her - I just didn't like that she tweeted set locations - but since that first online impression she has been a rollercoaster of crazy and crazier and therefore i deducted that she was not worth my time.... she contradicts herself constantly and she tweets straight up fabricated lies in hopes to get more followers and be recognized for greatness... its really highschool and she is old... so... i don't get it, nor do I try too, instead I just ignore as much as possible...

Anyways - Much to do tonight mostly non-twi-stuff.... but if i do go out or get info from peopl ei know who will be out i promise to post it for you all :)

KStew Can't even go get her hair did

Lainey Tweets:

there's a difference between long lens and a scrum.
4 minutes ago from web

Kristen Stewart currently being surrounded by LA paps (in Vancouver) at hair salon. Almost 20 photos in 10 cars.
12 minutes ago from web

PunkD Images Tweets:

Feel embarassed for these kids being followed by LA Rats.. This is what gives paparazzi a bad name
9 minutes ago from TweetDeck


Kristen back at wig fitting place followed by myself and 10 LA Rat cars.. I refuse to work around Rats so I'm outta here
14 minutes ago from TweetDeck

My Thoughts:

I used to not be a Lainey Fan, and while I won't go so far as to say I like her or anything, I do agree that New Moon was a different ball game - a few of the local paprazzi, the cast waving to them, Paparazzi would get their photos and leave them alone - these L.A. guys are INSANE - as in cut throat, chase you down, kill their own mothers to get a zillion pics....

Lame!

Dazed and Confused Interview with Kristen Stewart

Dazed & Confused Inteview with Kristen Stewart where she discusses paparazzi:

"The fact is, the paparazzi and most interviewers, they want your soul," she said in the magazine. "It's so scary because your persona ... and I guess I now have one, because people think of me in a certain way ... is all based entirely on quick snippets of crazed moments in your life. And that is what people then base their entire opinion of me on!"

She added that in those interviews, people can misconstrue what she says in any number of ways. "Anything you say can come and bite you in the ass," Stewart said. "It's not even like you say things you don't mean, it's just that sometimes they come out wrong."

The 19-year-old also said that when she chooses projects, she's careful to pick roles that she can relate to. "With 'Adventureland,' and pretty much everything else I've done, I've been lucky because they're characters I really identified with," she said. "Sometimes, I'll read something and it has something about it that makes you need to live it, and if you don't, it's like an unconsummated relationship."


So true, one photo or quote can be twisted into whatever they want it to be and millions of people follow and believe it. So Sad Really.

I also agree with how Kristen chooses characters she identifies with, I've also called this "playing her self really really well in movies" LOL

TwiFans had links to the interview and more photos

Is This Creepy? Photos of Rob (&Kristen) in L.A.

So Kristen and Robert hung out alot the past few days checking out the Bobbly Long show and the Marcus Foster staying at the Chateau Marmont... lot's of creeper pics but here you have it anyways...

Does he look *AT ALL* Happy about any of this? poor guy... I really do feel bad for him.... sheesh!

Sources Say - Rob sitting on stool. Woman in yellow is Stephanie Ritz (Agent) Kristen is hidden sitting 2 the left

Pix Pulled from varies sources via TwiFans

Funny Video NY Pap encounter with RPattz

Over on the east coast - RPattz was out and about - - - there are photos which are always pleasing but what I enjoyed was TMZs lil video clip LMAO

I am too lazy to record and upload but TMZ video-dude sees Rpattz and tries to film him. Rob is all grinz and walks up real close to him and kinda bumps/hits the camera playfully.. "What?" and "Im too close?"

it's pretty funny actually, it was on today so I am sure the video clip will show up tonight or tomorrow, if not I will be less lazy for you and upload it.... adorable....

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I said so last night in my post the video would be all over the net so why make my lazy self upload it... tee hee!

Though this is not the TMZ version, it's a bit longer, but has french subtitles and commentary - boo! Anyways...

Here it is:

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I am glad that Rob had been (obviously) drinking... and I am glad he confronted the Pap to say whats up? After a few shots or a video, leave him alone eh? (ya ya ya I say that *NOW*)